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The man who came back from the dead

By John McNeil of Challenge Weekly, New Zealand

lundi 30 avril 2007

CHRISTCHURCH, NZ — Russ Woolcock did not believe in God or an afterlife, and had no time for Christians or the Church. So when this Christchurch businessman “died”, he got a huge shock to discover that that was not the end.

Russ Woolcock was not brought up in a Christian family. He saw religion as a delusion.

“If you asked”, he says, “I could explain very clearly how people create religious beliefs, and create God in a leap of faith. All power to them, but it doesn’t make it true.

“I believed that religion was a pack of twaddle. Life is, I thought, a difficult process – it’s like walking through a foggy valley, miry underfoot. You can come under artillery barrages at any moment, the ground can give way under your feet, it’s a vale of tears, it’s hard.

“Our existence is purely random, I thought. I know that religious people make up some guff about a reward that you get after you’re dead, which can’t proved one way or the other, but blatantly that can’t be true, there’s no sense in any of that.

“Essentially, we don’t know why we’re here. All we can do is try to make it palatable.

“For me, there were two things that made life delightful. The first is human love. If you love and you are loved, a light shines in the darkness, your feet are lifted out of the mire. I am such a lucky man. I am a happy, happy loved man.

“The other thing is the truth. I was wedded to the truth. I was the little boy who proclaimed the emperor had no clothes on. I know what happens to little boys who tell people the emperor’s got no clothes, but it didn’t stop me. I made myself extremely unpopular often by pointing out the truth.”

Mr Woolcock says he believed these things for close on 50 years. Consequently, he expected that when he died, absolutely nothing would happen. That all changed 10 years ago, just a few weeks short of his 50th birthday.

Some major home renovations coincided with a slack period in his business, so he stayed home to help the builder.

“I was having some chest pains and ignored them. I got a bit behind with the work, so on the Monday morning I tore into things because I had a lot to get through. It was cold, and I did all the things you shouldn’t.”

The result was a heart attack, not particularly serious he thought. “But I was home alone, the phone was out of the wall, so it was a major battle to get help, and it used up more resources than I had. Before the help arrived, I died.

“I have been several states of non-consciousness in the past. I have been concussed, fainted, anaethetised, hypnotised, I was a master of transcendental meditation, I once had an injection of morphine in hospital so I know what a drug rush is like.

“But this was different. I was dead. There is a finality about death. It announces itself. There is no mistaking it. All my concentration was becoming focused on my breaths and heart beat. They were becoming less and less frequent, and the last one was identifiable.

“When it became clear to me what was happening, I was very angry. ‘It’s too early,’ I thought. I’ve got things to do and quite frankly this isn’t on my list’.

“But then I went inert. One of the nice things about dying – I don’t know whether it’s true for everybody – but you have no power over it. Whether you are frightened or angry is irrelevant.

“When the last heartbeat had gone, I was aware of a couple of things. First, I was aware that I was aware, which came as a shock. And that puzzled me, because I was expecting nothing. I wasn’t expecting any kind of existence. The other thing was that I had no body.

“I had never been particularly interested in near-death experiences, and never read any books. But I had heard about two things : one was seeing your body and the other was going down a tunnel, and neither of those happened to me.

“It’s hard to describe what happened after that because all our language is inadequate. It’s another world, and language just doesn’t go there.

“I was aware of being moved, or the environment changed around me. There was no sense of motion. I was aware of incredibly intense light, but unlike the sun it was not unpleasant to experience because there was no sight involved.

“I became aware I was in a different environment, but it was oddly familiar in some way. Concepts like time and space were totally different. Past, present and future were identical. Place was the same – specific and everywhere at the same time.

“It was a place with identity, but I have no idea what its name was. I’m not making any claims about it being heaven, I don’t know.

“But I wasn’t too interested in the place ; I was riveted by the people, because the people who met me were my family – my late parents and my late sister, and a host of other identities.

“All I knew about the latter was that they knew me intimately well, but who they were I don’t know. There was a strong sense of love from them.

“There was no conversation as such. No words were used, but meaning and intention were crystal clear.

“But then they became almost became secondary because I became aware of this father heart. I was just riveted by this, the overwhelming sense of love. This vibrant love was unbelievable.

“Because of its creative nature, it was clearly my Maker, and it was clear that this is what we refer to as God.

“I had no conversation with God, and I am not making any claim of being in God’s presence. What I can say is that I knew I was palpably in the presence of God, though not face to face.

“The thing I was most aware of was that at the very centre of creation is this overwhelming, overpowering, colossal, extravagant, amazing, radiating love.

“This might not be a shock to people of faith, but to someone of no faith it was a stunning surprise. There’s not nothing – there’s love. Not just any old love, love of a magnitude and a type way beyond our comprehension, beyond our imagining, way beyond my ability to describe, and certainly way beyond whatever we could have made up.

“This ran counter to everything I had believed. It was all novel to me. I had never died before. I was flabbergasted.

”About that stage it was decided I could return, because I had things to do. I didn’t have any part in the conversation, I didn’t express any opinion one way or the other. I was just slack-mouthed – it was very like being a baby again.

“I wanted to stay, but I had a strong sense of responsibility to my family. I didn’t want them to come home and find me dead on the floor. That was noted and respected.”

Mr Woolcock says it was a wrench coming back, not because of pain, but because he had seen the glory and it was not there any more.

“From the time I regained consciousness to the time the ambulance guys arrived there was a mix of relief and desolation. It was rather like Cinderella the morning after the ball but magnified.”

Despite the intensity of the experience, he never told anybody of it for some years, even his wife, thinking he would not be believed. It is only lately he has started speaking publicly about it.

But while he was relieved to be back with his family, inside he mourned. “In the presence of that love, you would never want to be out of that again. I wanted that every day – I wanted God in my life every day.”

He says he tried every philosophy and every religion, but none took him there. The one thing he did not try was the Christian faith, because he had not equated the experience particularly with Jesus.

“It was scriptural, I have since realised, but not recognisably Christian. There was no Jesus figure.

“I thought I could discount Christianity because I had tried that. It was about superficial, pompous, liturgical, theological backwaters, and too complex, too much tied up with power and politics.”

However, six years ago a friend noticed that Mr Woolcock was spiritually troubled, and started reading John’s Gospel to him.

“When he got to the verse, ‘I am the way, the truth and the life’, it all just clicked into place. I opened my heart to the Lord Jesus, and that love was immediately back.

“It felt like a tongue of flame on the day of Pentecost. I was consumed by heat – I have never felt so hot.

“I had always regarded Jesus in the traditional humanist way, as a historical figure, a great guy, wise teacher and all that sort of stuff.

“But when I spotted his divinity, I knew it was true, that he is the bridge. There is no other way we could possibly approach God.”

Mr Woolcock says not everything about his experience lines up with traditional evangelical theology, which he finds a challenge - for instance, the fact that his parents were there, who to the best of his knowledge never professed any Christian beliefs.

However, he says he is not suggesting that people can live their lives without any consideration of God and then expect to enter heaven. “It doesn’t work like that. You’ve got to be ready.

“When you accept a gift, a key part is to recognise the giver. The gift is available to us only through an unbelievable sacrifice. You have to acknowledge the giver and the sacrifice. If you don’t do that, if you deride that, ignore that, you can’t expect to get the gift.

“One thing I absolutely believe is that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord. You would have to be a wilful idiot to turn your back on that.

“There are probably such people, but I can’t understand how anyone would prefer an eternity of misery rather than living basking in that love and returning it.

“Some of what I know is slightly challenging to theology, but nothing happened to me that’s not in the Bible, and that came as a great surprise and delight.

“The Bible was a totally closed book, a work of fiction, as far as I was concerned. But it’s not fiction – every word of it is inspired, every word has meaning and purpose. What an arrogant berk I was – I feel so repentant. I couldn’t have been more wrong.

“What I learned was this : far from being a random organism swimming through an ocean of blind chance, it turned out I am the beloved child of the creator God who made me for his purpose.”


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  • The man who came back from the dead 2 mai 2007 09:42, par kmullins

    Now you need to become a Catholic if you are not already one. The Catholic Church is the one True Church started by Jesus Christ at the last supper. Peter being his first high priest and Pope of the Church.

    Thanks.

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  • The man who came back from the dead 2 mai 2007 14:42, par Medjugorje

    Yes, God Is Love Itself - and That Love is the Most Blessed Trinity - the Eternal Divine Community of Love - Father, Son and Holy Spirit. God the Son, Conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, was born of the Virgin Mary, fulfilling 2000 years of prophecy about the Messiah. He is the Lamb of God, whose Flesh and Blood give us Eternal Life, like the Passover Lamb’s blood and meat saved the Israelites from the Angel of Death. Jesus’ Holy Sacrifice happened once on the Cross, but is offered anew every day in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, which Jesus established to be the Source and Summit of His Church, against which "the gates of Hell will not prevail." Read Church History, and you will see that from the start, Jesus’ Church believed what Jesus Taught - that He is the Lamb of God, and we must Eat His Flesh and Drink His Blood, to have Life within us - that the Risen Christ is there on the Altar of every Holy Mass in His Church, and He waits for us to come, to unite with us in Holy Communion, and to assimilate us into Himself, and through Him, with Him and in Him, with the Entire Blessed Trinity. He gives us the Bread of Life - His True Risen Presence - in the Sacrament of the Eucharist in His Church - the Only Church founded by Jesus, and after almost 2000 years, It is still here. For over 1000 years, there WAS no other church besides the Catholic Church. Only when people began to Protest, to break away, were there any other "Christian" churches. But they do not believe everything which Jesus taught - there is Much More to being Christian, than to say : "Christ is Lord", etc. - We must come Into His Church - receive His Living Presence, receive His Sacraments which unite us with the true life of the Living God ; we must conform our lives to the Teachings of His Church which Jesus promised would be led by the Holy Spirit and reveal to us the Full Truth of what God wants from us, and what awaits us. God is Love - Yes - and He wants us to Live that Love, Respect Life from conception to natural death, to "love sinners, hate the sin" and stand against the darkness of a materialistic worldview which pushes homosexuality, artificial contraception, abortion, euthanasia, the destruction of human embryos for medical purposes, assisted suicide, pornography - all things which are an assault on the Great Gift of Human Life given by God, who are destined to live with Him in the Community of the Saints and Angels in Heaven forever. There is only one True Christianity which continues to teach and uphold the Full Teachings which Jesus gave - Only the Catholic Church still believes and practices the same exact teachings and rites which the First Christians practiced and believed. After Jesus said that His flesh is food indeed and his blood true drink - many turned away, saying they did not believe what He said. But His Apostles knew that Jesus can raise the dead, heal the sick - He can do Whatever He Wants ! If He Wills to give us His True Risen Presence through the bread and wine, like the flesh and blood of the Lamb of the Passover saved the Jews from death - then Of Course He Can ! The Apostles knew that if Jesus Says It - It is True ! "Where shall we go ? You have the Words of Life !" And how more Perfectly to Truly Unite in Holy Communion with God, than to eat and drink the Holy Eucharist of His Risen Presence, and have those material particles become actually part of our bodies, our blood - besides the Risen Christ uniting with us spiritually with His Glorified Body ! Like the Apostles on the Road to Emmaus, after the Crucifixion of Our Lord - their eyes were opened, and they Recognized the Lord "in the Breaking of the Bread". He is With Us. He is Alive. He is in Every Catholic Church in the world - there in the Tabernacles where the Consecrated Hosts are reserved, which, by His Divine, Omnipotent, Creative Word : "This is My Body," have been verily changed, transubstantiated, into the True Presence - Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ, the Risen Lord. Jesus gave us Himself - "I will be with you until the end of time" - Present in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, Present to be Our Daily Bread, so that we can receive the Risen Christ, the Bread of Life, the Light of the World, and go into the world, to take That Light into the darkness - To Go, to be Sent, is what the word "Mass" comes from "Mise", to be sent, like Missionaries.

    Come everyone, into the Holy Roman Catholic Church. Read Church History for yourselves and see. There is Only One Church that was founded by Jesus Christ.

    Thanks be to God !

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  • The man who came back from the dead 2 mai 2007 20:07, par sncatholicm

    The "Dogmatic Constitution on the Church - Lumen Gentium"
    The non-Christian may not be blamed for his ignorance of Christ and his Church ; salvation is open to him also, if he seeks God sincerely and if he follows the commands of his conscience, for through this means the Holy Ghost acts upon all men ; this divine action is not confined within the limited boundaries of the visible Church."

    Section 847of the Catechism states that :

    The above "...is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church."
    "Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience — those too may achieve eternal salvation."

    Salvation is more difficult for those outside the Church. The life-giving graces from exposure to the faith far outweigh the issue of entering an area of culpable knowledge. Hearing the Gospel can be the first step of someone not getting an abortion, or getting enslaved by pornography, or continuing in adultery, all of which lead into everlasting damnation. Christianity offers the road out of the darkness, and the relationship with the Trinity and the whole Communion of the Saints that bring a person into eternal life.

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  • The man who came back from the dead 2 mai 2007 20:24, par sncatholicm

    The psychologies of individuals are extremely various in this regard, and the Bible takes into account one’s actual intent and the degree of one’s knowledge when discussing moral responsibility. These are some Bible verses about how non-Christians can be saved.
    Luke 12:47 "And that servant who knew his master’s will, but did not make ready or act according to his will, shall receive a severe beating. 48 But he who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, shall receive a light beating. Every one to whom much is given, of him will much be required . . ."
    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire which will consume the adversaries."
    1 Timothy 1:12 "I thank him who has given me strength for this, Christ Jesus our Lord, because he judged me faithful by appointing me to his service, 13 though I formerly blasphemed and persecuted and insulted him ; but **I received mercy because I had acted ignorantly in unbelief**, 14 and the grace of our Lord overflowed for me with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus."
    Jn 15:22 [Jesus says, regarding people He has personally taught and performed miracles in front of] "If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin ; but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23 He who hates me hates my Father also. 24 If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would not have sin ; but now they have seen and hated both me and my Father."
    2 Peter:20 "For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overpowered, the last state has become worse for them than the first. 21 For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them."
    The correspondence of one’s guilt to one’s knowledge of God also occurs in Matthew 11:20-24 ; 12:45. In Romans 2, Paul explains that everyone has access to the law through his or her heart, and people can find salvation by following God in that way and seeking the truth :
    Romans 2:6 "For [God] will render to every man according to his works : 7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life ; 8 but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury. 9 There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace for every one who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek. 11 For God shows no partiality. 12 All who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. 14 When Gentiles who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse **or perhaps excuse them** 16 on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus."
    Exodus 33:19
    And the LORD said, "I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the LORD, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

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  • The man who came back from the dead 3 mai 2007 10:34, par pwhim

    Russ, I have profound respect for your experience. It sounds like it was extraordinary. But I must call you on what appears to be a deep contradiction.

    On one hand, you say you were in the presence of limitless love and peace and oneness, a presence you knew was the cosmic intelligence called God. Since you were an atheist, it would appear you were admitted to this presence and enveloped by this infinite love regardless of any religious beliefs or lack thereof. And yet now you claim that only through accepting Jesus can people come to this afterlife existence that seemed to call you even though you viewed Jesus as a historical figure and nothing more.

    Pardon me, but this seems hypocritical, as though you have now become an acolyte of a doctrine and decided that the rules have changed. Clearly, the love, peace, oneness and divinity you experienced are available to us all, no matter what faith (or lack of faith) we choose. I would submit that Christianity or any other religion is only the path to such bliss in that we receive the love in the afterlife that we gave in this life, and you say you were a lucky man to love and be loved.

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    • The man who came back from the dead 23 juillet 2007 00:00, par Gilly

      Yes, I can understand that. Let me see if my thoughts on the subject help any...

      Let us assume for a moment. That some random person had lived their entire life on a deserted island and never heard about God or Jesus. It would seem thoroughly unfair of an "all loving God" to condemn a person for not believing in Jesus, when he had never heard of Jesus to begin with !

      If, however, at death this person "meets" Jesus. Then, he may decide for himself whether or not this is the real thing. And he *will* either accept him or not. (as once the thing is permeating your entire being you really don’t have the option of ignoring it, at least, not judging from Russ’s account).

      CS Lewis had a similar scene in "The Last Battle" with all of the animals coming through the door and meeting Aslan.

      The feeling I get, is that God always makes sure that you make an "informed" choice. Wouldn’t really be fair otherwise. And wouldn’t really match up to an "all loving God" IMHO.

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    • The man who came back from the dead 24 juillet 2007 11:04, par Sue

      I agree with your comment, I enjoyed the story and I felt uplifted and almost in that presence of love myself just reading it but then he lost me when he started preaching about the Catholic Religion. I believe in God....the kind you described when you were in his presence but I do not like religion. It has seen thousands of years of repression and cruelty. Why can’t it just be about love. I don’t believe we have to follow any religion, just be a kind and caring person to all creatures, no if’s, and’s or but’s.

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      • Gucci Shoes Are Bound To Their Masters
        Recently, one of my infinite Gucci-fan friends has come up to me and told me a story he experienced the day before. Well it really attracted my attention during the whole story and that’s why I want to share it with you guys. Without further ado, here it goes :

        "As a traditional practice, we the Turkish people usually leave our shoes behind the entrance door of our houses. That’s being said, it means we usually do not enter to our homes with footwears put on. Unfortunately, my mate had done this at the day of the incident, too. Having lunch at that time, my friend wasn’t aware of the two gypsies wandering inside the apartment building, maybe for begging some food or money from the residents. To their surprise, they should have seen the pair of yummy Gucci shoes, which belonged to my friend and had cost him 550 bucks not long ago. Probably knowing these facts, they stole the beauties.

        After the lunch, no sooner realizing the absence of his sneakers, than my friend cries in pain. They sent for police and explain the details about the Gucci shoes which my friend owned. In the mean time, the gypsies rushing towards their houses, start off an argument about whom to wear the shoes first, or whom they would belong to. The argument goes harsh and they keep on fighting with each other on the street, while the stolen goods were smiling them somewhere near the street. Soon after the patrols come and arrest these gypsies as they were informed about some valuable shoes being stolen just a few hours ago.”

        My friend, then, meets with his stuff and never leaves them anywhere further away than 2 meters =).

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